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The NRL Podcast takes you behind the scenes with some of the biggest names in the game, delving into the issues on and off the field in the Telstra Premiership.

Refs Round-Up: Grand Final edition

In the last episode for the 2019 season, Kasey and Gavin and joined by Ben Cummins, Gerry Sutton, Chris Butler and Nick Beashel, who are the four officials appointed to the NRL Grand final. They talk about their season, and answer questions sent in by listeners.

Semi finals and sin bins

Kasey and Gavin Badger break down the four sin bins from the semi-finals by giving listeners an insight into the referees' audio from each incident and explaining how and why the officials came to their decisions.

Interview with Grant Atkins

This week Kasey and Gavin catch up with fellow NRL Referee Grant Atkins ahead of his semi-final appointment, delving into his background in the game and experiences over the years.

They also discuss the controversial moments from the Melbourne v Canberra game, listening to game audio and giving an insight into the roles and responsibilities of match officials.

Interview with Ashley Klein

This week Kasey and Badge speak with NRL referee and senior review official Ashley Klein. They speak about his role in The Bunker and how review officials operate, as well as how he manages his dual role. Kasey and Badge also answer some listener questions.

How do referees rule on advantage and play-the-ball speeds?

This week Kasey and Gavin delve into the advantage law, and how it was applied in the round 24 Cronulla v Canberra game, and explain what referees take into account when judging the speeds of every play-the-ball in a match.

Can the Bunker rule on offside?

This week NRL referee Tim Alouani-Roby joins Kasey and Badge to talk about incidents out of round 23, as well as exploring whether or not the Bunker can or should rule on offside players. Tim also explains his philosophies around the game and his role in the NRL Cultural and Diversity Advisory Group.

How are NRL referees evaluated?

This week Kasey and Badge discuss the sin bins in the Melbourne v Canberra match and the pressures this can place on officials, and explain the referees' weekly evaluation process. Kasey also speaks to Badge ahead of his 350th NRL appearance.

Contact after passing and repeated penalties

Kasey and Gavin Badger discuss what the referees look for in relation to contact after passing or kicking, and explain when officials decide to sin bin a player due to multiple penalties against their team.

Obstructions and captains communication

On this weeks episode, Kasey and Gavin Badger explain the NRL Laws and Interpretations around what is and isn't an obstruction, and how these applies to the Wests Tigers v Cowboys game from Round 20. They also explain when a captain can and can't speak to the referee.

Refs Round-Up: Is the stripping rule too hard?

This week Kasey and Gavin cover all the hot topics out of round 19, delve into the stripping rule, answer listener questions, and tell you all about a special visit they had in Newcastle from a little champion named Reuben.

Refs Round-Up: Interview with Belinda Sharpe

On this weeks episode, Kasey and Gavin speak with NRL referee Belinda Sharpe in the wake of her debut, and cover the incidents from last round.

Refs Round-Up: Controversy begets controversy

On this week's episode Kasey and Gavin discuss a range of referee and Bunker decisions from Round 17 that had fans and commentators talking, and discuss all the debuts in the NRL refereeing ranks.

Escorts, Tries, Concussion and more

This week Kasey and Gavin break down some key rulings from Round 16, and continue to answer listener questions.

Controversies in round 15

There were a lot of decisions made in round 15 that had fans and commentators bemused. Tune in to this weeks episode where Kasey and Gavin unpack everything that happened, and answer more listener questions.

Ben Cummins interview and listener questions

In this week's episode Kasey and Gavin explore last week's representative round and chat with NRL Referee Ben Cummins ahead of his 350th game. They also answer a range  of listener questions.

Penalty tries and checking decisions

This week Kasey and Gavin discuss the penalty try awarded in the Cowboys v Tigers match, and explain why referees sometimes check decisions with the Bunker and sometimes make a decision on the spot.

Interview with Origin referee Gerry Sutton 

On this week's episode Kasey and Gavin speak with State of Origin referee Gerry Sutton to hear his thoughts on the physical and mental demands of the game, and coping with pressure.

They also discuss dealing with on-field complaints of eye gouging, and a listener question is answered.

Two referees system and busted communication gear

This week Kasey and Gavin Badger describe what happened when the referees communication gear didn't work on the weekend. They are explain how the two-referees system works and talk about a special visitor in the NRL referee ranks last week.

The ultimate test: reffing an Origin game

This week Kasey and Gavin speak with the NRL Referees' Performance Co-ordinator Matt Jeffriess about how he and his staff prepare officials on a weekly basis, and how a State of Origin game changes the physical and mental loads of the officials.

Indigenous round, quick taps and listener questions

On this week's episode of Refs Round Up, Gavin explains the significance of the referees' jersey for this year's Indigenous round. Kasey and Gavin also delve into quick taps, explaining when they can and cannot be taken and the referees' processes in these scenarios, plus much more!


Acknowledgement of Country

National Rugby League respects and honours the Traditional Custodians of the land and pay our respects to their Elders past, present and future. We acknowledge the stories, traditions and living cultures of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples on the lands we meet, gather and play on.

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