It was during a late-night Chinese feed with mates that Rabbitohs winger Josh Mansour asked a waiter for a pen and scribbled a business plan on a napkin.
That idea turned into a fully-fledged renovation company - Renosell - which has now been operating for about six months.
Aged 31 and contracted until the end of 2022, Mansour has acknowledged he's in the "back end" of his playing career but the 164-game NRL veteran is thoroughly prepared for life after footy.
And while Mansour hasn't played first grade since round 11 and was named as a reserve for Sunday's clash with the Bulldogs at Cbus Super Stadium, Renosell has allowed him to explore another passion.
"It's a renovation business that gives the opportunity for people that are selling their home [to use] an after-pay service," he told NRL.com.
"When you look at the property market at the moment, it's really hot and people want to get as much value for their property as possible.
"That's where we come in and fill that gap. It's definitely something I want to be involved in long term, not the short term.
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"I want to really make people happy and I think that's the most satisfying thing about renovating and helping people get the most value for their home. It's really fulfilling to see."
The NRL prioritises education and Mansour is one of many players who are undertaking pursuits outside of the game.
There are 535 NRL-contracted players of which 355 are studying some profession or interest - totalling 411 post-secondary education and accreditation courses (some players have multiple academic pursuits).
Meanwhile, another 50 either run or own businesses, are in paid part-time employment, or do regular work experience.
Mansour is enrolled in a Certificate IV in Building and Construction, though he admitted to putting it "on the back-burner" recently because he's been looking for a house and focusing on Renosell.
The fan favourite also has a Certificate IV in Small Business under his belt having knocked it over while injured in 2017 through former Dragons winger Jason Nightingale's Elite Athlete Business School.
And he already knows what life is like as a builder having completed a carpentry apprenticeship as a budding NRL player in 2011.
"[Renosell] is really exciting for me because it's another challenge, it takes me out of my comfort zone," he said.
"Because being in rugby league, you're given a set schedule and told what to do almost every day of the week."
On the field, Taane Milne has done a great job to keep Mansour out of the top team, scoring five tries in six games including a hat-trick in last week's 46-18 win over North Queensland.
The Rabbitohs have shrugged off a mini-slump and are shooting for their sixth straight victory against the last-placed Bulldogs on Sunday.
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Eight rounds are left in the regular season and it's a luxury for South Sydney to have someone of Mansour's experience as a backup.
With Sydney in lockdown and the NRL's NSW and ACT-based clubs moving to Queensland for at least a month to escape the COVID-19 outbreak, Mansour can't get on the tools anytime soon.
But despite being Renosell's director, mainly working in "sales and marketing", he still plans to use his tradie skills when possible.
"People like to think that I'm just there for my face and that, but when I get the opportunity to get on the tools I don't say no," he said.
"It's definitely something for me to get back into after footy. I actually remember everything back when I was a carpenter, so it's coming back to me slowly. I'm getting there.
"With the lockdown, I can't go on-site [right now] but hopefully when this is over I can get more involved with the tools."
Renosell is already making a difference. They gave away a signed Rabbitohs jersey and a $500 VISA gift card last week in a free competition on Instagram to "boost a few people's moods".
